deficits, but many things can change. as we all know with a budget, as the economy changes, as we get better revenue forecasts we have a different understanding of the budget and can adapt to it and balance to that level later on. so i really do think that taking a look at some of the funding sources here, it really ought to come i think from a place where the school district says it is their priority and that they're willing and able to use rainy day funds and even not that the reserves that they expect to have towards the end of the year. again they ended last year's school year with a fund balance of -- this year of 26 million. fundamentally i don't disagree with the usage but i think the source of funding is important for the city to consider especially knowing that we have other impacts that may flow down for us. so i will be -- if i could take the amendment in two parts, one to reduce the level of funding from the 2.upon million to the 2.205 and separate out the funding source instead of it coming from the state revenue loss, coming from the rainy day. >> supervisor chu asked to

five years the city has also experienceexperienced deficits. because of that we begun to pull on something that is known as the prop h trigger which is when we project 100 million in give to the school district. over the last five years, we have pulled 74 million from our school district.8srz now, last year, when we pulled the trigger again, i think that many of us saw that we had -- we were expectingynnj= another structural deficit as we've seen in the years before. but as we got closer to the night of june 30, i started to see actually that our budget had grown in a positive direction. and i was concerned that, as the states continue to cut our schools that we weren't able to backfill those cuts. i wanted everyone to understand where this supplemental is coming from. it came from what i was seeing wanting to give a small piece back. unexpectedly the school was cut from its after school funding source which is our 21st century funding source. it had been a late cutaupz; so e school district had not prepared to backfill it in their budget process as well. at the same time in

to the s budget office. we have not received a deficit forecast for the next fiscal year. i think that's probably coming soon. can you just give an update on that because there was a reference before to having a better budget picture. so i'd like to get some specifics on that. >> through the chair, supervisor wiener, kate howard, mayor's budget director. you're right, we haven't issued budget directions or -- we haven't projected a deficit. that will be coming next week. i can say that the outlook has improved since last year, but we still will be projecting significant deficits in the first year and in the second year. for a variety of reasons, including things like, you know, the new san francisco general hospital, changes with federal healthcare reform, funding our capital plan, all those sorts of choices. but it will be -- i will be going out with budget going out with budget instructions with significant departments to make reductions. >> supervisor wiener: thank you. i ask that question because even though this is a -- in terms of appropriation, even though this is just for this

to spur, we have a $is00 million -- 100 million annual operating deficit structure and the need will grow over time. we have a growing population and growing transit needs. we are supposedly a transit first city where we want people out of their cars. not only do we need to shore up what we have we need to expand service significantly. now, funding is not muni's only challenge. we need continued work reform, salary efficiencies, implementation of the transit effectiveness project, and mta is moving in a good direction in those areas. but muni's chronic severe underfunding is a key part of muni's challenges. we're at a crossroads in san francisco in terms of investing in our system, and to be frank, we're not meeting that challenge. and what i seen is that when it comes to any funding place, muni loses. it is not high on city hall's priority list for funding. and hundreds of thousands of people who rely on muni every day lose as a result. we see this in various ways, for example the free muni for youth debate is one example. the school district reduced its own transportation program and th

there will be deficits that we'll be facing, in the coming years. we talked about the mandated cost block[u&,9- getting some additional dollars from that. and then the budget projections were bleak. they continue to be bleak. so once again, we're not -- we're still in a position where we'll be cutting and modifying and adjusting for next year. giving. >> who's first? commissioner wynns. >> commissioner wynns: i just mandated cost block grant be distributed to all the board members and hopefully at some time in the future we could have a discussion about that, because how this is going to work, this is another new change to the funding structure. it would be good for us all to know before we do the budget next year, to understand that better, i think. thank you. >> can i just encourage, if you haven't received this, mr. lee, all of the board members we asked for your input on what you'd like to hear. coming up we'd like to do our budget committee earlier rather than later knowing there are additional cuts we have to focus on and to set our priorities. we also have had several discussions around this pos

with a planned deficit reduction by 2013. these cuts are what we refer to as sequestration. this would mean an across the board cut of between 7% and 10% of

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